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| Andro | Feb 16 2013, 12:53 PM Post #1 |
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Not counting GT, at EoZ is she as strong Goten or Trunks were at her age or stronger, or weaker? Opinion? |
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| + Emmeth | Feb 16 2013, 03:19 PM Post #2 |
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Probably not as strong as the kids were at the beginning of Buu arc, but definitely surpassed every human being at that point. |
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| lunar2 | Feb 16 2013, 04:20 PM Post #3 |
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goku said she would definitely go far in a tournament that was more than 1/2 ki users. she's stronger than goten (the weakest of said ki users) at least, and probably trunks as well. plus, being the daughter of ultimate gohan, she should be the strongest of the young generation. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Feb 16 2013, 11:28 PM Post #4 |
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She would definetly be above the androids IMO |
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| jonte9195 | Feb 16 2013, 11:45 PM Post #5 |
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Meh I'd Place a little below #18 |
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| lunar2 | Feb 16 2013, 11:50 PM Post #6 |
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why so weak? she flies around the planet for fun (something that would take saiyaman saga gohan 13 hours to do), she's predicted to go far in a tournament full of saiyans, and she's the daughter of the most powerful non-fused character in the series. |
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| Captain Cadaver | Feb 16 2013, 11:52 PM Post #7 |
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As Lunar said, Goku stated she may go far in the Budokai. Although at that time, the only ki users Goku believed may face her are himself, Goten and Boo, there was still a fair chance of her facing one, which to me would imply she would at least be stronger than one of them. IMO, she'd be at least above Base Goten/Trunks, especially if viewing that filler fight with Goten as canon filler (as it dosen't contradict anything, and adds to the feats of a featless character such as Pan). At the absolute most, she could be above Good Boo, but you'd have to make a massive amount out of a little bit of evidence for her to end up that strong. |
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| jonte9195 | Feb 16 2013, 11:55 PM Post #8 |
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Weak? I don't know how a 4 year old being close to a android that can one-shot the terror of the Universe is weak? |
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| Kblo247 | Feb 17 2013, 03:03 AM Post #9 |
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Goku didn't feel the need to rig her fight and have her avoid anyone in the brackets even with Vegeta and Trunks added. I'd say she is quite strong. She can fly around the earth with ease, which we know Gohan couldn't as Siayaman. Only Gotneks is shown to lap earth effortlessly, and Pan thinks its a fun workout at 4. We know going in she isn't winning the tourney, they all agree to not win it and throw it to satan. So going very far doesn't include a title for anyone, and we know Goku doesn't want Uub matched up with anyone. Some will say to protect the others from Uub, but I could also argue that Goku doesn't know his power control and doesn't want any of the others to take him out before they trigger his power (Vegeta and the others aren't trying to enrage him). So I'd personally put her in a tier with the boys. She isn't afraid to fight them, and neither are Goku/Gohan/Videl/Chi Chi for her. |
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| Captain Cadaver | Feb 17 2013, 03:06 AM Post #10 |
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To be fair, the only rigging he cared about in any way was for him to fight Oob. Not that I disagree with the rest of your analysis. Edited by Captain Cadaver, Feb 17 2013, 03:06 AM.
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| Kblo247 | Feb 17 2013, 03:16 AM Post #11 |
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Well he may very well have expected her to be able to fight the boys. I doubt he fears Buu hurting her, he may as well be an uncle by title (Goten fears Buu). Now Vegeta is the question mark, he knows Vegeta won't pull punches, they all do. Vegeta would expect no less and I doubt Pan/Goku/Gohan would as true Saiyans. That's why I have her where I do placement wise |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Feb 17 2013, 03:44 AM Post #12 |
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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Most of you are putting her way too high in my opinion. The best way to tell her power would be to look at her most impressive feat: Flying around the world in just a few hours. She's nowhere near Gotenks considering he circled the Earth numerous times in just a couple minutes. In all honesty, I don't see any reason to put her above Piccolo post Nail fusion at that point in time. Namek is roughly the same size as Earth as I understand it, and Piccolo didn't take more than an hour or so to cross a good part of the planet. She also didn't kill White Tiger when she knocked him out of the ring. It's also not like she was in any serious battles that we're aware of. The training that she did was with Goku, but we don't know how long she was training for or how frequently. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Feb 17 2013, 03:50 AM.
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| Captain Cadaver | Feb 17 2013, 03:46 AM Post #13 |
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Just look how Kuririn didn't kill Pintar, or how Vegeta didn't kill Nok, because they controlled their effort. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Feb 17 2013, 03:52 AM Post #14 |
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Pan seemed much less restraining than Vegeta or Krillin did. She actually jumped up and slapped him. Vegeta and Krillin simply gave them lazy nudges. |
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Feb 17 2013, 03:54 AM Post #15 |
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The amount of time in which she circled the Earth is never specified in the manga. |
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